|FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
1. What is the cost of the kit?
now we are shooting for a price range under $1000 for the 4x4labs specific
parts to adapt the OM617 engine to GM standard transmissions- engine adapter
plate, custom flywheel and pilot bushing adapter.
2. What applications does this kit fit?
vehicle choice will be up to you. We are developing motor mount kits, clutch
slave cylinder brackets, throttle linkage adapters and a few other items
for specific rigs but for now we are focusing on the adapters needed to
mate the engine to the transmission.
3. What transmissions will work with this kit?
manuals are our first focus. SM420, SM465, NV3500, NV4500, NV5600 are in
the first round. There may be other GM manuals that will work since our
flywheel will have bolt patterns for both the GM 11 and 12 inch clutches.
4. What does the kit come with?
basic adapter kit will include the 4x4labs specific adapters- engine adapter
plate, a custom flywheel and pilot bushing adapter. You will be responsible
for off the shelf parts (GM clutch, GM pilot bushing or bearing, starter
5. What are the TQ and HP #'s for the om617?
specs vary from year to year. The range is from 79hp - 125lb/ft for the
non-turbo to 135hp 181lb/ft for the later turbo engines. If you do some
web research there is a bit of variance in these numbers. There are reports
of 170hp and 200lb/ft easily attained by adjusting fuel and turbo pressure.
We have an engine dyno available and will be experimenting with this in
the near future.
6. Will my fuel tank and lines work?
lines and tank will work with diesel, drain the gas out and fill it with
diesel. One concern is the fuel return line that is necessary for the diesel.
In most cases your vehicle will have this provision although it is usually
called a vapor recovery line for gasoline engines.
7. What electrical work will have to be done?
are very few electrical connections needed for this engine to run.
main device is the glow plug timer/relay system which consists of pre-glow
time relay, temerature sensor and indicator lamp. This equipment is housed
in a small black box usually on the driver fender of the donor vehicle.
There are 6 wires, 3 of which are essential. Other than the pre-glow system
the alternator and guages are the only other electrical components.
8. What year MB should I look for?
OM617 came in 1978-1985 300 cars.
9. What has to be done to balance the flywheel to the engine?
replacing the flywheel, the balance of the engine should be maintained
as much as posible. The new flywheel should be brought to the same balancing
condition as the old flywheel. A simple 180 degree balancing operation
is performed. We offer this service. You can send us your flywheel and
we will send you the new flywheel balanced to the same specs as the old
one. You must mark the flywheel before removing it so that the same balance
point is retained when installing the new unit.
Can 4x4 Labs perform the full conversion upon request?
how much would that cost?
turnkey engine conversions run anywhere from $10-$25k at this shop.
can make an appointment to go over your requirements. We will look at the
vehicle and talk to you about your needs and wants and then we can give
you an estimate of the cost. Since this is a new product we have no basis
for precise costs for different conversions yet.
Are other major drivetrain modifications required?
on your vehicle you may need to change the length of the drive shafts or
change the location of the transmission and transfer case.
Any top or bottom clearance issues?
engine is roughly the same size as a 22R toyota 4 cyl. Rough dimensions
are- Length 33.5" back of valve cover to front of fan, Depth 27" top of
valve cover to bottom of oil pan, Width 14.5" widest part of oil pan. The
OM617 has a front sump oil pan so there may be some differential interference
on spring under 4wd rigs. Note: We are developing a dry sump oiling system
for this engine so the oil pan can be shortened up considerably. With a
dry sump system you can flip upside down and still be running without damage
to the engine. This will be advantageous for the offroad market since rollovers
are relatively common.
Can the stock Toyota gauges be reused with the OM617 setup?
stock guages can be used by either modifying the orifice in the head or
engine block to accept the stock sender or by installing an electrical
device inline to make the resistance in the sender and guage compatible.
Are other systems compatible (power steering, power brakes, a/c, etc)?
are assisted by vacuum. The stock mercedes vacuum pump is more than sufficient
to activate the brakes in most vehicles. The Vickers power steering pump
found on the OM617 engine is a powerful unit and works well with saginaw
power steering boxes. The Vickers pump is serviceable and can be modified
easily to put out more pressure and flow. We are testing it out with ram
assisted units and should have some information on that soon.
What about other transmissions?
are working on developing a line of adapters for this engine. We will continue
development of these adapters because we believe this engine is one of
the best automotive power plants ever produced. Our development timeline
is uncertain at this point but we have overwhelming interest in these adapters.
Our production decisions are largely based on feedback we get from you
and we have a list of transmissions we will develop for.
list includes the following transmissions but there will inevitably will
be more added as we go:
Automatics- TH350, TH400, 700R4, 4L60, 4L80
Landcruiser- H41, H42, H55F, A440F
pickup- G52, G54, W56, R150